Ciao, i am Georgina from Italy Milan. It is the first time i visit this web site. I understand you are mostly moroccans here so you could help me in the understanding on this once very precious person and now.... i dont know anymore. I always tent to describe the situation starting with the worst part of it but of course my relationship with this guy has had its tender lonìving care moments which of course i wont describe. Here is my story: well the essential of my story from day one, i met this guy, he is called Adbelfattah and is from Ain Chock Casablanca, in a train station, we looked into each others eyes and smiled and a few min later he approached me asking if the train coming was going to a certain place, i answered yes im going there too. During the trip we exchanged a few words i told him i was married , but i was not in reality, but was seeing someone, so since i like very much couscous and mint tea, he asked fpr my mobile to offer me a tea since he was working in a take away moroccan shop, i went and from that day we are pratically inseparable, he was calling me at every hour saying "please come i need to see you even for a few mins" then if i would go he would say "stay more stay more". He left morocco in 2002 headed to spain with a visa that he said his father paid 5.000Euro in order to obtain it. In spain he had an aunt and cousins but during the 7 months he has been there he did not do anything good, actually he was drinking and getting drunk and had small problem with police for disturbing and aggressive behaviour. Although he has a diploma the only thing he could find for work was dishwasher in a hotel. Well leaving barcelona for the problems i described he tries to enter Italy throught France with an expired visa and so the police took his passeport and his digital prints, he then went to some friends in a small city around Milan but no luck also there and then finally he reaches my town he arrived in February 2003 and i met him in May same year. So he couldnt apply for a regular permit coz they would have found out he was still in italy after he got expelled, we started to see each other every day althought he did not have a red cents to take me out. To be honest i went out also for a long time with some quite rich men and that is not what excites me (that my man is rich) If there was some work for a few days as construction, moving furniture, painting factory, ecc he would go for it usually through other moroccans that knew his situation, and then with much pleasure he would have paid for my lunch or small presents. In the mean time he was living a bit here and a bit there, i mean he could not afford to pay no rent, and on April last year after the flat where he was living with other 4 moroccans and, i have to say, in terrible conditions, cockroaches, dirt, bad smell, well the owner of this flat wanted the flat back coz nobody was paying rent in months so Fattah started to say, "we are always together, we spend every spare min together, if you love me and you know the situation let's rent a flat just for the 2 of us" in the same period , actually before that he started to talk about getting married, one thing that i still remember clearly, at the very beginning of our relationship he phoned at his parents and passed his mama and sister to me on the phone we were able to understand each other good speaking french. That was for me a clear sign of what he felt for me... So carrying on the relationship yes i managed to find a small one bedroom flat to put the contract under my name and actually he was living inside, i was still at my mama and travelling a lot coz my work was in Roma, (Milan - Roma is 550KM) soi put the money in advance out straight away, i called a friend to live with him that was working regularly anf giving me half of the rent each month, and Fattah was working yes and no, actually more no then yes, somehow the money for beers was always ready...Well he then called his papa tellng him to send the documents in order to be able to get married with me here in Italy, his papa told him it was not good to marry me coz i was not moroccan and not muslim and older, my papa tells me not to marry, cos he is a moroccan, he is muslim and younger. We have 7 years difference, he 25 me 32, phisically you would not tell , of course i do seem older when i speak, i was living abroad by myself and supporting completely myself at the age of 21, (absolutely not common here in italy where the average s are that at 30/35 years old people are still living with mom and dad, and they insist that you live with them!!!! That is my beautiful country Italy!) I am objectively a beautiful mediterranean woman (i say this because i entered the U.S. 5 times and latest april 2005 where in Nyc Airport and Seattle i have seen some maghreb or north african anyway, married or together with some real fat women, really big and fat and dressed terribly) so he tells me everytime "i cannot wait to go to casablanca bringing back a beauty like you as a wife, he says "Zyne dyali, zwina hobbino dyali, be hebbeck, ayati" and he is beautiful too, with those big green eyes, that he took from his mother Anyway life goes on ,i end finally the relations ship i had before knowing him and i dedicate completely to him, i support him and when he can, he gives me some money back, but you can count it only on one hand the time he could give me some money, in the mean time those certificate from morocco that would have enable him to get married expired coz i was not convinced to be with him, i mean you hear certainly some bad stories with moroccan man involved, here in italy, for example a moroccan married with a moroccan woman, threw her out of the balcony while she was pregnant 8 months, he denied but he is still in prison, she is alive and the baby too. we later saw her after giving birth working on the street as a prostitute, another married with a young italian woman stabbed her cos she wanted to keep some of the money she earned for herself and not sending this money to morocco, she is not dead and she still say that the husband was nervous and drunk when he stabberd her (!!!!!) When i asked fattah his feelings on this he said that those women were bad and they deserved it in a way.... I received myself some slapping in my face and he is big and tall, so it hurt, i gave the favour back immediately though. Anyway, we went through some really hard periods, without work, he got nervous at times and bored and listless at other times... After a few months he starts again with the marriage, saying that he needs desperately to show me that he is a good man, he is feeling so low that i have to support him, he wants to take me to Casablanca he wants to share the mortgage of a house here in Italy with me and all those other beautiful thoughts. Arriving at present times, the documents have been done and now we have 5 months remaining to set a date and we are married. You know what, i cannot in any way compare my story with those seen on the net, in which 2 persons fall magically in love without seeing each other in person, touching each other, smelling each other and so on, i have always had my Fattah close to me, even when i was i Rome far from him for a few days, i was double checking him with some unexpected phone calls to some of his friends he is straight and honest, once we were going under a very hard period i was far and very cold with him, and since he is beautiful he met this older woman that approached with and told him stay with her that she would have helped him out and so on she had children and she said her husband was in jail, some friends of him saw this lady and said she was quite old and dressing like a teen ager. Any way he told me about this short "break" he had, my friend say he told me to show me he can still pull another woman and so on... So my fear is this, we have now every day some issues on all sorts of problems, latest on my natural nailss that are too long! You believe it? The fear is this, what if he stays relatively calm and quiet just untill after the wedding and then once set for the regular visa he starts to impose to me certain things that now he doesnt do coz i could leave him? He told me all the times after our fights," i get agry and tell you my point coz im really interest at you and want a future family and share joy and bad period with you and one day with our children, if i was interest in getting you for the Visa i would have said always yes and do as you said utill the day i would have left you..." But still the moment i think about our future together i say what if and what if.... Please your opinion on this... With thanks, Georgina Veronica//en.yabiladi.com/topics/your-advise-situation-with-moroccan-44-725972-725972.html#msg-725972 Thu, 04 Jun 2026 13:56:13 +0200 Phorum 5.2.15 //en.yabiladi.com/topics/your-advise-situation-with-moroccan-44-725972-11927060.html#msg-11927060//en.yabiladi.com/topics/your-advise-situation-with-moroccan-44-725972-11927060.html#msg-11927060 OliviaCarolina Morocco # English board Sun, 20 Aug 2023 18:39:20 +0200