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k
21 April 2009 05:28
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balahit
hi there everybody

i think we all should consider this song. its the best ever been, well this is what i think......


Richard Marx - Right here waiting for you

Oceans apart day after day
And I slowly go insane
I hear your voice on the line
But it doesn't stop the pain

If I see you next to never
How can we say forever

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will be right here waiting for you

I took for granted, all the times
That I though would last somehow
I hear the laughter, I taste the tears
But I can't get near you now

Oh, can't you see it baby
You've got me goin' CrAzY

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will be right here waiting for you

I wonder how we can survive
This romance
But in the end if I'm with you
I'll take the chance

Oh, can't you see it baby
You've got me goin' cRaZy

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will be right here waiting for you


best regards
brahim

"Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you"

Sorry but sounds to me like a stalker song.

"But I can't get near you now" :

Also sounds like he is not allowed to get close to her "now" as opposed to before. Do I hear restraining order?


Anyhow, love is just an idea.

k.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2009 05:36 by koutiko.
S
21 April 2009 16:18
Hi FreeThinker,

Sorry to have reminded you of old sweet memories...

Kind Regards,

Latifa



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FreeThinker
Latifa etait une amie que jadorai, LATIFA veut dire gentil en Arabe.
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
21 April 2009 21:47
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Sweetlatifa
Hi FreeThinker,

Sorry to have reminded you of old sweet memories...

Kind Regards,

Latifa



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FreeThinker
Latifa etait une amie que jadorai, LATIFA veut dire gentil en Arabe.
you just brought back some sweet memories sweetlatifa, you almost put tears to my eyes but men are not supposed to cry.
People might have to move on but love refuses to move on, it stays with you in your heart til the day you die, even on your death bed you will not think of people who did you harm but only think of those you loved.
Like i said, Love is not easy to explain, you have to feel it to understand it.

peace and love.
S
21 April 2009 22:37
Well, I have always been told that men hide to cry their eyes out.

Men have also a heart and do have emotions.

You should be glad that you are in touch with your feelings.

As specialists say:

Crying opens the lungs, washes the countenance, exercises the eyes and softens the temper.So Cry away!

Wishing you all the best,

Lots of love,

Latifa
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
22 April 2009 09:24
salam Latifa
yes we cry too sometimes, we are not robots.
but you are correct, men need to hide to cry unlike women who show their emotions and cry like rain..
a man is not supposed to be a drama queen, he's supposed to be a go getter, that's how my dad raised me.
he came from the old school of pride and values and i will raise my sons the same way.
as for my daughters, it should be their mother's job to teach them things like manicure or i don't know what..

a girl needs to grow up as feminine and a boy needs to grow up as a man.
maybe this philosophy is wrong but that was what i learned from my parents who learned that tradition from their parents and great grand parents..

sweet dreams Latifa, one day you will find your prince charming but you have to be patient, you can not rush time.
F
22 April 2009 09:43
Love will never be understood even if we try to analyse it for 10,000 years.
you can not explain a feeling that you, yourself don't even understand.
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h
29 April 2009 22:02
“Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine.”
h
29 April 2009 22:09
Let's talk about you and me




“Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, always bring your own sunshine.”
S
30 April 2009 17:42
Let's talk about magic
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
2 May 2009 18:51
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Sweetlatifa
Let's talk about magic
Hi Latifa
i love to talk about love Latifa, don't let all this broohaha bother you.
some men just like to show off
not me, cause when i show off it's war all the way inside.
S
2 May 2009 22:51
Hi there,

Don't worry, I'm sticking to the subject...

So, when I say Love,what are your first impressions?

Waiting for you...

Latifa


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FreeThinker
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Sweetlatifa
Let's talk about magic
Hi Latifa
i love to talk about love Latifa, don't let all this broohaha bother you.
some men just like to show off
not me, cause when i show off it's war all the way inside.
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
2 May 2009 23:24
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Sweetlatifa
Hi there,

Don't worry, I'm sticking to the subject...

So, when I say Love,what are your first impressions?

Waiting for you...

Latifa


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FreeThinker
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Sweetlatifa
Let's talk about magic
Hi Latifa
i love to talk about love Latifa, don't let all this broohaha bother you.
some men just like to show off
not me, cause when i show off it's war all the way inside.
when you say Love, that means Life.
it's like a new generation full of hope, romantic want to dance ..
can get tragic sometimes, but that's Love.
if you don't cry, it's not Love.
F
2 May 2009 23:30
what's yours Latifa?
S
3 May 2009 10:40
Hi,

Mine is somehow idealistic.

The word Love is so pure...

Whenever I say Love, I do think about magic,poetry,sweet delight,sharing of energies,romance,true emotions,senses on the alert, chemical reaction,colorful life...

Should I go on?


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FreeThinker
what's yours Latifa?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2009 10:41 by Sweetlatifa.
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
3 May 2009 15:59
Some love stories i would like to share with you.
I hope you enjoy them as much as i did.

Acontius and Cydippe
Acontius was a young man from Chios who, at a festival at Delos, fell in love with the Athenian Cydippe. He threw a coin at her, and she picked it up and read, "I swear by the temple of Artemis that I shall marry Acontius..." By saying it aloud, she was obligated to marry him. This myth reiterates how tradition—and male aspirations—took precedence over female wishes, whatever they may or may not be.

Alcyone and Ceyx
Alcyone was the daughter of Aeolus, king of the winds. Her marriage to Ceyx was bliss—too happy, in fact. The couple often referred to each other as "Zeus" and "Hera", which naturally infuriated the king and queen of the gods. Whilst at sea, Zeus hurled a thunderbolt at Ceyx's ship, drowning the man. He appeared before his wife as an apparition, telling her of his fate. Distraught, Alcyone threw herself into the sea in order to join him. The gods pitied the woeful couple and transformed them into kingfishers. This may be the origins of "halcyon days", seven days before and after the winter solstice when Aeolus demanded the calm of the seas in honor of the couple.

Ariadne
Ariadne was the daughter of the the king of Crete, Minos. Minos had instigated from Athens a sacrifice of seven youths and seven maidens to feed the Minotaur, and the hero Theseus was to be one of the victims. However, Ariadne fell in love with him, and she assisted him by giving him a ball of gold thread to help him in the labyrinth where the creature dwelt. She accompanied him back on the voyage to Athens but he soon dumped her on the island of Dia, or Naxos. The god Dionysus found the wounded girl and made her his wife. He placed her wedding crown, the Corona Borealis, into the heavens as a symbol of their love.

Orpheus and Eurydice
One of the most tragic love stories . Orpheus was the son of the Muse Calliope and therefore a grand musician. His wife was a dryad, Eurydice, who also attracted the attentions of Aristaeus. Aristaeus pursued her until she stepped on a poisonous snake and was forced into the Underworld. Orpheus was determined to retrieve his beloved. He journeyed down to the underworld, first charming Charon, ferryman of the dead, and lulling to sleep Cerberus, the three-headed watchdog. He encountered Hades, who initially refused to release Eurydice, but Orpheus's music so touched Persephone that she pleaded Orpheus's case, and Hades relented. There was one condition: that Orpheus not look back on their way out. Of course, Orpheus was worried that Eurydice was not behind him, and he fatefully glanced back to see if she was following him. She disappeared back into Hades, and he lost her forever. Unable to live without her, Orpheus spent the rest of his days wandering in aimless sorrow before he was finally murdered by maenads, the drunken followers of Dionysus.

Hero and Leander
This tale is based upon a later poem by Musaeus around the fourth century C.E.. Nonetheless, it follows the tragic theme of two doomed lovers. Hero was a Sestos priestess of Aphrodite, and Leander was a lad of Abydos. They were on opposite sides of the Hellespont, but the youths fell in love anyway. At nightfall, Hero would hang a torch so Leander could swim across to her, using the light to guide him. One stormy night, the wind blew the light out; Leander lost his way and drowned. Upon learning of her lover's death, Hero also drowned herself in order to be with him. The story is a favorite among Renassaince artists; Rubens has an especially astonishing portrait.

Hypermnestra
Danaus was the king of Argos; his brother, Aegyptus was the king of Egypt . Aegyptus sent his fifty sons to marry Danaus's fifty daughters; Danaus, not trusting his brother, refused at first; the sons seiged Argos, and Danaus was forced to comply. On the wedding night, however, he gave each of his daughters long, sharp pins to conceal in their hair; at night, they were to kill their new grooms. All obeyed except one, Hypermnestra. Her husband, Lynceus, was good and kind and spared her viginity, and she found that she could not kill him and helped him escape. Danaus, furious, had her tried for life, but she was spared and eventually reunited with Lynceus. Her love also saved her from the fate of her murderous sisters: a lifetime of carrying jars of water with perforations.

Galatea and Acis
Acis, a minor river god, loved the nymph Galatea. However, the cyclopes Polyphemus [some say the same one who terrorized Odysseus ] also loved the girl. Acis was young and handsome, Polyphemus large and ugly. Acis and Galatea carried on a secret love affair, but one day Polyphemus heard Acis singing a love song for her and hurled huge rocks at the two. Galatea transformed him into a river and the stones which Polyphemus threw became the Cyclopian Rocks in Sicily.
S
3 May 2009 18:07
Thanks for your interesting stories.

What about Majnun and Layla? Isn't it tragic? And yet fascinating...

The love story of Salim and Anarkali

It is a story that every lover knows. The son of the great Mughal emperor Akbar, Salim, fell in love with an ordinary but beautiful courtesan Anarkali. He was mesmerized by her beauty and fell in love as soon as he saw her. But the emperor could not digest the fact that his son was in love with an ordinary courtesan. He started pressurizing Anarkali and devised all sorts of tactics o make her fall in the eyes of the young, love smitten prince. When Salim came to know of this, he declared a war against his own father. But the mighty emperor's gigantic army is too much for the young prince to handle. He gets defeated and is sentenced to death. This is when Anarkali intervenes and renounces her love to save her beloved from the jaws of death. She is entombed alive in a brick wall right in front of her lover's eyes.


In 1612, a teenage girl, Arjumand Banu, married 15-year-old Shah Jahan, ruler of the Mughal Empire. Renamed Mumtaz Mahal, she bore Shah Jahan 14 children and became his favorite wife. After Mumtaz died in 1629, the grieving emperor resolved to create a fitting monument. It took 20,000 workers and 1,000 elephants nearly 20 years to complete this monument - the Taj Mahal. Shah Jahan was never able to complete a black marble mausoleum he planned for himself. Deposed by his son, Shah Jahan was imprisoned in the Red Fort of Agra, and spent lonely hours staring across the Jamuna River at the monument to his beloved queen. He was eventually buried beside her in the Taj Mahal.

I would love to have a Taj Mahal...

Sincerely yours,

Latifa
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
4 May 2009 01:50
Hi Latifa
i think the arabic poeme/love story Majnoun Leyla came from the pre-islamic arabic story of Antar ibn Shadad who lived in today's Yamen.
he was a black man, his mother came from Etiopea and his father was arab, he loved his cousin but couldn't marry her cause she was white and he was black.
he became a big warrior not to become free or buy his freedom but just to impress her and make her notice him.
Romeo and juliette, 9aiss wa laila are based on the story of Antar ibn shadad.
As for Taj Mahal
it's one of the 7 wonders of the world.
the Taj Mahal love story is one of the most romantic love stories in the history of humanity.
it was not based on mythology but on facts.
he built the greatest palace on earth waiting for her to one day return.
that's pure love
S
4 May 2009 18:30
I do share your viewpoint!

Tell me, what are your favourite arabic poems?

I don't know much about arabic poetry but I would like to learn!

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Latifa
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
w
4 May 2009 23:53
love poems or as we reffer to them in arabic classic : al ghazale is HARAME in islam
islam has fobidden that a musulman writes al ghazale to a woman , al ghazale normally contains a full description of : mafatine al mar2a( for instance eyes, lips, clothes , the walk , the smell )

an exemple of arab poet is hassane bno tabit before islam he was a famous romantic poet but after islam and learning from the prophet that it was harame to write 9asida the main subject of it is love and romance , he switched to a different type of poetry : poems about war(foto7ate), poems about nature winking smiley
F
6 May 2009 03:55
Salam Latifa,
It's not what a person likes, it's what do you like?
if you like Arabic poems, why don't you do some research, the Arabs were poets way before islam arrived, that's where the Arabic language came from, it was not written as a language but the culture passed from generation to generation through poems cause people could remember poems.
If you notice, the qoran is also written in a poetic words so people can remember it.

now, about poetry
I like all kind of romantic poems, certainly if it's a tragedy poem/love story, tragedy is the essence of poetry, why would any one write a poem if his/her heart is not broken, only broken hearted people go that deep into their souls to get in touch with their inner feelings.

Nizzar Qabbani is my favorite, 99% of his poems were about love, you should check him out, i already talked about him in this forum.
[www.yabiladi.com]

Al Motanabi was the most fluent in Arabic, most experts say he's the best Arab poet to ever live, his poems were so perfect linguistically that some compared them to the Quoran and declared him a prophet, that's where his name came from, Al Motanabi = He who claim prophecy.

There is also Mahmoud Darwish, the palestinian who just died few years ago, one of the greatest poets of all time but most of his poems are about the palestinian struggle and freedom. it's romantic in its own way, love of the land of your ancesters, love of your culture and heritage..etc, very nationalist kind of love.

There is also Ahmed Shawqi, an Egyptian poet who lived in the 1850's i guess, the experts say that he was the best Arab poet since Al Moutanabi, they gave him the title of AMIR SHOAARA = PRINCE OF POETS.
His Arabic was so fluent that he's compared to Al Motanabi, the funny part, he wasn't even Arab, he was half kurdish and half Greek but he studied the European Renaissance and decided to apply it to the Arab world for a new renaissance, the british kicked him out of Egypt, but his poetry got his messages to the Masses.

As for the most romantic Arab poets, they came from the pre-islamic period of Arabia, Islam didn't even exist yet, that's what started Arab culture, it was a way of communication between tribes and a way to meet, like a network/internet of those days.

Also, Andalous and Persia had some of the most radical and most romantic poets of all time.
Abu Nuass, Al Khayam, Al Asfahani (he wrote kitab al aghani, 10,000 pages), Zyriab...
And the list is long...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2009 04:00 by FreeThinker.
F
6 May 2009 05:30
When I Love
by Nizar Qabbani

When I love
I feel that I am the king of time
I possess the earth and everything on it
and ride into the sun upon my horse.
***
When I love
I become liquid light
invisible to the eye
and the poems in my notebooks
become fields of mimosa and poppy.
***
When I love
the water gushes from my fingers
grass grows on my tongue
when I love
I become time outside all time.
***
When I love a woman
all the trees
run barefoot toward me...


***********************

Love Compared
by Nizar Qabbani

I do not resemble your other lovers, my lady
should another give you a cloud
I give you rain
Should he give you a lantern, I
will give you the moon
Should he give you a branch
I will give you the trees
And if another gives you a ship
I shall give you the journey.

**************************

O’ God
by Ahmad Shawqi

O’ God !
I wander all day and pine through time,
And seek some comfort in my rhyme.
The noblest of rhymes overflow with love,
The sweetest line - the musical and pure -
Are written down for the heart as a cure.
Men turn as they pray to the holy place;
To Laila’s home I turn my face.
Twice people say their prayers at dawn;
When I think of her’
I know not the times I repeat my own,
Laila hid behind a crowd;
Her lip betrayed a smile,
Like the break of morn,
Or the sun as it shone.
Her sweet breath filled the air,
Made perfumed roses seem less fair.
A shiver ran through my form
From head to toe
As though my eye had met her own.
Let’s love:
All men are mortal but love never dies;
Laila and I loved with young eyes
Our love story which is now alive,
To our successors will continue to survive.
Generations of men will die and go past,
But our true love will forever last.
F
6 May 2009 06:20
The impossible Love
Al Hob Al Mostahil
by Nizar Qabbani

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F
6 May 2009 08:15
The poem Al Hob Al Mostahil "(the impossible love)" was written by the great poet Nizar Qabbani, but it was Kazim Sahir, the great singer who made people notice it.
The story goes like this, during a meeting with Nizar Qabbani, Nizar refused to let any one sing any of his songs, Abdelhalim Hafez was his favorite singer and was the last one he gave the right to sing one of his poems.
Kazim Sahir promessed Nizar qabbani that if he let him sing the "impossible love" he wouldn't change one word from the poem and would sing it just like if Abdelhalim Hafiz was singing it.
Nizar Qabbani accepted and the poem became a hit as a song.
it's one of the most beautiful poems of all time.
And Kazim was the perfect person to sing it:
[www.youtube.com]
S
6 May 2009 10:28
Thanks FreeThinker.

I do appreciate your help.

Sincerely yours.

Latifa
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
7 May 2009 03:42
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whatsup
love poems or as we reffer to them in arabic classic : al ghazale is HARAME in islam
islam has fobidden that a musulman writes al ghazale to a woman , al ghazale normally contains a full description of : mafatine al mar2a( for instance eyes, lips, clothes , the walk , the smell )

an exemple of arab poet is hassane bno tabit before islam he was a famous romantic poet but after islam and learning from the prophet that it was harame to write 9asida the main subject of it is love and romance , he switched to a different type of poetry : poems about war(foto7ate), poems about nature winking smiley
Poets never did talk about religion, Poets only talked about the ones they loved or the ones they hated.
F
7 May 2009 05:20
i am very sorry Latifa,
we don't look or search for love, Love must come to you.
we can not ask for Love or wait for Love, but when Love comes..it will come.
when Love comes, you will feel it Latifa cause Love never lies.
you will see it , in the eyes.
and the eyes never lie.
Latifa
chiao chiao Sweet Latifa,
i love you Latifa but another woman is in my life.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2009 05:23 by FreeThinker.
F
7 May 2009 05:59
im very sorry Latifa, i liked you a lot but life has to go on...
im taken .
[www.youtube.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2009 06:03 by FreeThinker.
S
7 May 2009 12:26
Freethinker...

What are you getting at???

I've nerver tried to court you or whatever!

Have I made myself clear, Mr Casanova???

Moreover, we are just chatting, nothing more, nothing less...

spinning smiley sticking its tongue out



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FreeThinker
im very sorry Latifa, i liked you a lot but life has to go on...
im taken .
[www.youtube.com]
Elegance is an attitude[i]Thank you, my dear friends, for all your sweet messages, I love you too...[/i]
F
7 May 2009 12:57
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Sweetlatifa
Freethinker...

What are you getting at???

I've nerver tried to court you or whatever!

Have I made myself clear, Mr Casanova???

Moreover, we are just chatting, nothing more, nothing less...

spinning smiley sticking its tongue out



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FreeThinker
im very sorry Latifa, i liked you a lot but life has to go on...
im taken .
[www.youtube.com]
Sweety, rebels have other plans than just romance, rebels like to go to war and fight..
romance is and will always be in my DNA til the end of Time, til the day i die.
but i only believe in having one girl, the mother of my child.
the rest comes 2nd.
I
7 May 2009 13:53
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FreeThinker
im very sorry Latifa, i liked you a lot but life has to go on...
im taken .
[www.youtube.com]

Hi everybody,

I know that is none of my business but whatever.....

You are maybe in love with sweetlatifa, it is your right but I don't think that the feeling is reciprocal.

In any case, there is no word or sentence from our sweet Latifa that shows it.

This post is only a way to talk about love through poetry, songs.... and not to seek for love......

In order to remain in the topic of this beautiful post, below Chasing cars lyrics from snow patrol:

We'll do it all
Everything
On our own

We don't need
Anything
Or anyone

If I lay here
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me
And just forget the world?

I don't quite know
How to say
How I feel

Those three words
Are said too much
They're not enough

If I lay here
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me
And just forget the world?

Forget what we're told
Before we get too old
Show me a garden
That's bursting into life

Let's waste time
Chasing cars
Around our heads

I need your grace
To remind me
To find my own

If I lay here
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me
And just forget the world?

Forget what we're told
Before we get too old
Show me a garden
That's bursting into life

All that I am
All that I ever was
Is here in your perfect eyes
They're all I can see

I don't know where
Confused about how as well
Just know that these things
Will never change for us at all

If I lay here
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me
And just forget the world?


It is just wonderful!
[b]Tu dis que si les élections Ca changeait vraiment la vie, Y'a un bout d'temps, mon colon, Qu'voter ça s'rait interdit ! Ben si l'école ça rendait Les hommes libres et égaux,L'gouvernement décid'rait Qu'c'est pas bon pour les marmots![/b] Renaud
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