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The new Soviet Union ?
m
23 February 2005 22:59
When I listen to world news, I see many bright futures. India is
a nice example. Economy growing like wildfire, entrepreneurial
spirit thriving, government bureaucracy slowly loosening it's grip.
If you are a parent in India, you have legitimate reason to be
excited about the prospects awaiting your children. They are likely
to live a better life with more opportunities than you are.

China is much the same, though different. Their economy is growing
even faster than Indias. The communists are still in power, but
it is an evolving communism.

The future looks bright in Europe too. These children of the
European Union are growing up as a new species of global citizen -
multi-lingual, moving easily between nations and cultures. With
Turkey probably joining the EU, that multination is growing even
more diverse. Those nations are entering a phase of postnationalism
that will free their children to be citizens of the world.

And then there's America. What's new and exciting in America's
future? Er...nothing. Whatever economic growth is happening here
is much slower and not likely to lead to any social transformation.
America doesn't seem to feel like it needs to go anywhere new.
Mainly it is feeling defensive - things are already pretty good
here and we want to hold on to it. Our society seems to be responding to the evolution of the world by determinedly seizing on stagnation.The things growing in this country are nationalism and calls for traditional values.

What I see developing on the world stage is an America that has no
vision for the future, and exists only to hold on to the huge chunk
of global resources that it already has. I see a growing opposition
between America and the rest of the world, as America tries to lock
everything in place and the rest of the world tries to grow. I fear
America developing into the new Soviet Union - a major global power
that thinks it should be ruling the world but which has nothing to
offer that the world wants and so exercises it's influence only by
raw application of military might. A nation simultaneously strong and
irrelevant, whose children will stand on the sideline as the real road to the future is built.
m
23 February 2005 23:01
le reste du monde sera la nouvelle union soviétique pour les USA car avec leur arrongance et leur complexe de superiorité, ils finiront par couler de l'intérieur car ils ont une vision trop religieuse des choses et par la suite ils satgnent dans leur idées alors que l'anti-mericainisme n'est plus à démontrer dans le reste de la planéte.
a
24 February 2005 12:05
Hi marocaino,

What a great way to describe the situation in the USA. Yes there’s that feeling the country is not needing or wanting to go anywhere anymore. But what worries me in America more than anything else is its wiliness to go on with its programs to spread its views and values by forces if that’s what it takes, and that is scary.

Your example with India is right on the money, the Indians were smart to look at the world and ask the question, “What do we need to do to be part of the train of development, and be part of the world economy? Then they went and prepared for it, they invested heavily in schools and education, and already they are harvesting the rewards. It’s too bad, though, because it seems as if the Arab countries are doing the exact opposite, and they are been left behind, way behind in reality. Government’s bureaucracy, luck of investment in education and corruption, which keeps other countries from doing business them, and then the waves of terrorism related problems, if I may call it that, that had the world look at Arabs and Muslims as if they’re all weird nations ready to blow themselves out for their faith.
Someone has to blow the whistle in the ears of the Arab leaders, and has to do it soon. Also the populations in the Arab world have to take some responsibility in all this, I’m not calling for anyone to go in the street, but we can’t ignore the unbelievable and great Ukrainian example of just 4 months ago.

I do not see America as a superpower on the road to its destruction, or on the road to becoming another soviet union, but I do see it loosing ground to strong Euro countries that are coming very strong and very fast, and to a China economy that already took of and nothing could stop. I see America loosing the leadership and becoming just another country on the map, but I guess, far from a Soviet Union picture.
Thanks for a great subject,

Take care,
Almot
t
25 February 2005 23:56
I disagree ... America are way ahead of the game as (unfortunatly) money -or economy if you prefer- is the engine of this world.

Americans need to have someone to hate ... they need to have someone to fight ... when the soviet union fell they turned to Islam and muslim countries. They will always try to marginalise the muslims and make friends with the rest of the world against us.

And as the arabs have once decided that they will never agree on anything and will let jealousy and greed lead them ... America can sleep tight.

Cheers,

Tachelhit
e
14 March 2005 20:39
tachelhit, you want to save corrupt, backward, dictatorial, arab regimes?.......
m
15 March 2005 18:24
2 days ago I heared on the BBC a report on academics, scientists and engineers having dificulties getting a Visa for the US.Then I head their US collegues complaining about this situation and warning US authorities about the losses.

The US did always enjoyed new blood through imigration....
t
15 March 2005 23:38
Good think that this post is up now otherwise I would have never responded back.

Of course I do not want to save those governments you are mentionning (that the US mostly helped put in place) but I think that it is time for us to

1) have a little more esteem and assurance,
2) apply what our prophet SAWS has taught us (i.e. brotherhood links)
3) get ride of those governments
4) install a true democracy in our countries that are rich of talented people and natural resources

Once this is done ... our least worry will be what the US are up to!!

Of course I can be mistaken ... in that case I will welcome your view smiling smiley
a
16 March 2005 01:13
Hello y'all,

in his first post, marocaino talked about all these countries that are moving in the right directions, and America, which he showed some doubt about. I have no doubt at all about America falling behind, and let us not be fooled by the fall of the dollar against the euro or the slugging economy: this country still has lots of energy and talent to sustain the changes.
On the other hands, I see NOTHING at all changing in the Arab world so long as we have the regimes we have. Prosperity goes hand in hand with democracy and respect of human right, and God knows we are soooo far from achieving that. Sometimes it seems to me we defend some Arab regimes not because of the good work they’re doing, because they’re not doing any, but because of who we are, because of our pride we feel that criticizing them is standing with the enemy, i.e the west in many case and Israel more often. And that is a dangerous mentality that we should eliminate for good if we are to hope for any changes.
The Arab leader complain that they can’t achieve because the others are against them, they can’t introduce democracy because it has to match our culture, yeah sure, for democracy to work in the Arab world it has tolerate presidents sitting for 25 or 30 years without real elections or with fake ones, it has to tolerate corrupt government that treat their populations like sheep, it has to tolerate 0 right for women, and tolerate no freedom of speech and no amendments to invest people’s money in the future of the people. I can go on and on for hours..but please lets just stop blaming the Arab world problems on the west, even if that is the case sometimes, we have been, I’m afraid, the real problem.
Sorry but this point makes me real unhappy,




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/16/2005 02:45 by almotanabi.
Almot
 
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