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The Pope’s Funeral
a
9 April 2005 12:07
I think he was a good man because he always stood for what he believed; whether we agree with him or not, I think he always was clear in his views in regards to world policy, including the war in Iraq. I know you may disagree with me, and that is OK. It’s my view and I have lots of respect for the man.


Almot
D
9 April 2005 15:23
Salam almotanabi! long time no seen !

I think nobody can deny the fact that he was a good man! I totally agree with you. There are many good jews and christians! Allah said respect their prophets and religions!
Peace & Love...
a
9 April 2005 18:31
Hello DeadRose,

Good to hear from you,

You know I actually sat down and watched the funeral, and by the end of that ceremony, it became clear to me how large the impact he had on millions of people around the world. I’m glad you are with me on that.

I have a suggestion for you: how about TheRose, RedRose, PinkRose or even GreenRose instead of DeadRose. I can’t help it, but every time I read your posts, my eyes get stuck on that and it seems to me that I have to be very careful because I’m talking to someone who may be just little pissed off at life,,,,lol... just kidding, I like DeadRoses....
Salaam,

Almot
D
9 April 2005 21:50
Hello Dear almotanabi,

I watched the funeral too , and I sincerely couldn't help being a bit sad about his death...He's done a lot more than other muslims would do...

I was sensitive to your suggestions...RedRose, Pinkrose,Greenrose...hummm it's a difficult choice! why not BlackRose winking smiley
You know...you don't have to be careful when you read my posts...You can catch the rose, I don't have spines lol...

As I told you in the post "Do you Like?..." it is not completely a sad nickname smiling smiley and thanks for liking it smiling smiley
Salam...
Peace & Love...
m
11 April 2005 09:12
Elizabeth Barrett Browning
A Dead Rose
Poem lyrics of A Dead Rose by Elizabeth Barrett Browning.
O Rose! who dares to name thee?
No longer roseate now, nor soft, nor sweet;
But pale, and hard, and dry, as stubble-wheat, -
Kept seven years in a drawer-thy titles shame thee.

The breeze that used to blow thee
Between the hedgerow thorns, and take away
An odour up the lane to last all day, -
If breathing now, - unsweetened would forego thee.

The sun that used to smite thee,
And mix his glory in thy gorgeous urn,
Till beam appeared to bloom, and flower to burn, -
If shining now, - with not a hue would light thee.

The dew that used to wet thee,
And, white first, grow incarnadined, because
It lay upon thee where the crimson was, -
If dropping now, - would darken where it met thee.

The fly that lit upon thee,
To stretch the tendrils of its tiny feet,
Along thy leaf's pure edges, after heat, -
If lighting now, - would coldly overrun thee.

The bee that once did suck thee,
And build thy perfumed ambers up his hive,
And swoon in thee for joy, till scarce alive, -
If passing now, - would blindly overlook thee.

The heart doth recognise thee,
Alone, alone! The heart doth smell thee sweet,
Doth view thee fair, doth judge thee most complete, -
Though seeing now those changes that disguise thee.

Yes, and the heart doth owe thee
More love, dead rose! than to such roses bold
As Julia wears at dances, smiling cold! -
Lie still upon this heart-which breaks below thee!


a
11 April 2005 10:46
Oh Brother Krim,
that's a real good poem, thank you, now I have to say to DeadRose that I like her logging name and that she should never change it...lol
Almot
D
12 April 2005 03:41
Krimmmmmmm Oh my God! that's a really beautiful poem !!
I didn't know it...thank you sooo much smiling smiley

See ,almotanabi winking smiley
Peace & Love...
m
12 April 2005 09:56
It´s my pleasure dears
Below is another poem in French and entitled "Rose morte"



Onigami écrit "

Du sang, des sables
Des vents et des fables
Elle perce de sa beauté
La haine et la cruauté.
Vantardise et luxure
Dans l’instant se turent
Quand à l’épine se heurtèrent
Et de sa lame touchèrent Terre

A son nom, un frémissement,
A sa vue, l’éveil
Mais à sa prise, l’évanouissement
Car de sa piqûre, l’on ne se réveille…
Tout se meure dans la convoitise parfaite
De la condition idéale pour laquelle on s’entête.
Son symbole est en elle, son visage en rayonne
Son silence est torture, mais l’adoration la raisonne.

Adorer la luxure ou la convoitise
Adorer le péché de la vantardise
Aimer son attirance, puis se voir rejeter ;
Traître charisme émanant de sa beauté…
Telle la succube droit venue des enfers
Tel l’incube dansant à l’aube claire
La rose de sa beauté tue à tout va
Du sang, des sables, des vents et des fables
Elle a tué, tue et tuera,
Car comme la Mort, elle en est capable…
a
12 April 2005 12:44
Ok DeadRose, Ok Krim,

just stop it! I know you've won and I lost this one, I'm sorry, It'll never happen again...... ANA METTAYEB LILLAH!!!!WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO SO YOU CAN FORGIVE ME??? just ask!!

cheers,
Almot
m
12 April 2005 13:10
Dear Almot
All what I wanted is to share the 2 pieces with you and deadRose.
Both of you are behaving and doing everything to make this forum enjoyable.

So I want you to keep behaving as always you did.
Regards
D
12 April 2005 16:57
Salam My Dears

@ almotanabi...Okay I forgive you this time...if you bring me a BlackRose tongue sticking out smiley
baraka alaho fik brother...your posts smells like alive roses smiling smiley

@ krim thanks again for that beautiful poem...who is it from?

Sorry we deviated from the subject...I apologize almot smiling smiley
Peace & Love...
m
12 April 2005 17:40
Belive it or not the second poem is from a person who does not want to identifie himself. He gave Onigami as a name and no more information.
Ciao
D
12 April 2005 18:30
Okay then , thanks again krimo smiling smiley
Bye
Peace & Love...
t
13 April 2005 16:25

hello almonatabi,

I completely agree with you. When you see how many people from everywhere went to his funerals, how much time they spent in the queue before seeing him. It so beautiful. It prooves how good he was and everybody respected him. He wanted the peace in the world and did the best he could to help people in need and try to reach a peace forever.

Salam. May God reward him.
a
13 April 2005 16:45
Thank you tanjawiya,
That’s exactly how I felt, we shouldn’t care about what religion a good person is from, a good person is a good person, period! No matter where he or she is from. I actually liked him since when he visited Morocco, if you’re 70 years old like me, lol, and you remember that event,,,,he was very humble, respectful and people greeted him so well.
I also wonder who amongst the actual Arab leaders will draw crowds like that if they die tomorrow,,,let me think for a minute, NO BODY!!!
cheers,
Almot
t
13 April 2005 17:13

No thanks almonatabi,

Yes, religion has nothing to do with the goodness of somebody. I was very sad when i knew the news, he was a great man, and noboby can deny this. I have seen the pictures when he was visiting Morocco, it s incredible, he visited so many countries and was so tolerant with everyone. He even forgave the man who had intended to kill him! Who would have done this? Even a 100% muslim wouldnt have forgive him. I admire him. I watched the news with great attention the day of his funerals. I even cried! It s not a reason that he wasnt a muslim that we havent to consider him and we ought to think of what he did in his entire life.

I think the same, few persons will be present in the funerals of a arab leader.

D
13 April 2005 17:54
Hello All

I think we are not the only ones who were affected by his death. It's really a great loss...Many muslims were sad about that.

A friend of mine called me yesterday (I precise that he's muslim) and we started talking about the Pope's funeral...my friend was so affected by this!! more than I could imagine. He described his feelings..he told me he's never gonna forget this great man for all the things he's done, for his goodness and tolerance towards all the religions. What struck me the most is when he told me that when he heard the news about his death , it was for him like his dad's death...
Personally I won't say I was sad and hurt to that point .. but for the moment I can't imagine another Pope in his place.
Peace & Love...
i
14 April 2005 19:25
tangawiya wrote:
"He even forgave the man who had intended to kill him! Who would have done this? Even a 100% muslim wouldnt have forgive him"

ok, he was a great man and nobody can deny it . but please ,dont go this far !!
t
15 April 2005 12:50

Hello idimo,

I see around me and i notice that, this is my opinion. I see that most muslims people have difficulties to forgive to sb and it s a pitty.

Salam.
 
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