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Since the peaceful and illegal invasion of Western Sahara in 1975 by the Moroccan Cosa Nostra, the common lie that the Moroccans have been repeating to themselves, and to whoever wanted to listen to them, was that this land has always been part of Morocco. One argument they put forward to clear their colonial intentions is that many Sahrawis were born and grew up in Morocco. As you may agree, the existence of Sahraouis in Morocco is only a result of the open borders between Morocco and Western Sahara. Sahrawis who were fed up with their nomadic lives just sneaked inside Morocco and lived. Let Spain open its borders and you will get a number of North African and Sub-Saharan babies booming up on the other side of the Mediterranean sea, and a couple of decades later, Spain might perhaps claim Nigeria as part of it for the sole reason that Nigerians (and others) were born and grew up in Spain. That's a weak argument which betrays the real intentions of the Cosa Nostra. There are many reasons for the sudden interest of Morocco in Western Sahara. Given the international concern over drugs and the countries that produce them a few decades ago, the Royal Palace, who have been trading in Hachich for over half a century, started looking for a more decent income to continue reaping the Moroccan wealth on behalf of the brave people of this country. The result is the famous March that resulted in the colonization of Western Sahara and the enslaving of its people. Hundreds, if not thousands of Sahrawis have been shoved in prisons, tortured or even extra judicially executed. The Moroccan thirst for oil was the major reason behind this 21st century-yet-barbaric invasion of a neighboring country.
Although, in terms of international law and legislation, the United Nations through its Security Council passed resolutions ruling that a referendum should be held in Western Sahara to determine its independence - and strangely enough - the Moroccan Cosa Nostra abiding by the resolution, the political discourse kept the dissonant sound that Western Sahara is 100% Moroccan. Apparently, the "State of Law" as they like to call themselves seems to be determined to breach International Law by occupying a land and preventing its people from self-determination.
There were quite a few similar cases around the world and they were all solved with equity despite the stubbornness of the colonizer. A good example to illustrate such practice was East Timor and Indonesia. For decades, Indonesian regime under the reign of Soharto (a dictator and blood-sucker; Very similar to King Hassan, a dictator but a cock-sucker) had been illegally occupying East Timor despite the claims of independence by the East Timorese. Mass executions, imprisonment and extrajudicial killings were common practice in this island until the United Nations pronounced its independence from Indonesia. A lesson every Moroccan should remember. And the wisdom behind this is that whatever the lie the Moroccan Mafia Regime is feeding the Moroccans, there'll come a day when the Law rules and the people of Western Sahara recover their stolen land, and finally be able to raise their flag, sing their anthem, and enjoy the unquestionable right to be called citizens of Western Sahara.

The Omnipresent Sparks
Casablanca, Morocco

Hello Salek Weld M'barek

Your post deserves no response in my view, because we know who you are.

And by the way Sparks, or Salek weld Mbark, if you are in Casablanca, Morocco, then I’m in Tindouf, Algeria, and the weather is great here…
Go fish somewhere else, people here love Morocco.

almotanabi Wrote:
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> Hello Salek Weld M'barek
>
> Your post deserves no response in my view, because
> we know who you are.
>
> And by the way Sparks, or Salek weld Mbark, if you
> are in Casablanca, Morocco, then I�m in Tindouf,
> Algeria, and the weather is great here�
> Go fish somewhere else, people here love Morocco.
>
> Almot

Wrong Wrong Wrong!
I love Morocco more than you do - most probably.
But I am simply not too stupid to fall into the regime's colonial trap! Real Moroccans are against stealing other people's lands!







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With you guys there is only one word :

O ! I am a moroccan, and a real one, and I would be alleged to say that if you call this "stealing" I would call myself a robber, and with pride.

I remember members of ILAL AMAM who did sing the same songs about the Sahara in the seventies, many of them realized that they were wrong and it does not make sense to create an algerien puppet state. Some of them join even the moroccan police, you are may be aware of them.
I also find ridiculous your statement in another site about moroccans jews who were not allowed to integrate public schools. I use to live close to "Mellah" and I had many jewish friends. Their parents did everythings to get them into private schools. Most of them in french schools.
Since you live in Casablanca, you have to reconigze that you are enjoying the freedom of speech and you are allowed to tell such lies. You know that the relations between jews and the palace are excellent, you know that the jews themselfs never complain about the moroccan administration. I agree that they may had or have some problems with a part of the population but not at the government level.
We do have a lot of problems in Morocco which need to be tackled by real democrats and not by those who try to escape by creating artificial ones.
Algerian generals who did confiscated the power in Algeria are damm wrong in interferring in moroccan internal affairs. They better respect the will of the algerian people.
Without respect

Krim Wrote:
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> I remember members of ILAL AMAM who did sing the
> same songs about the Sahara in the seventies, many
> of them realized that they were wrong and it does
> not make sense to create an algerien puppet state.
> Some of them join even the moroccan police, you
> are may be aware of them.


In this case, the drums and the fanfar of the seventies could pretty well fit an organization called "ila Louara' "
This is not an organization talking here, just a Moroccan National, like everybody else in the streets of Morocco, sharing OUR beliefs and concern about the future of this country in the hands of thieves, Mafia gangs and impreialists and hand-kissing assholes!



> I also find ridiculous your statement in another
> site about moroccans jews who were not allowed to
> integrate public schools. I use to live close to
> "Mellah" and I had many jewish friends. Their
> parents did everythings to get them into private
> schools. Most of them in french schools.
> Since you live in Casablanca, you have to
> reconigze that you are enjoying the freedom of
> speech and you are allowed to tell such lies. You
> know that the relations between jews and the
> palace are excellent, you know that the jews
> themselfs never complain about the moroccan
> administration. I agree that they may had or have
> some problems with a part of the population but
> not at the government level.


Very shorsighted of an insight. The Jews don't complain because nobody could complain. And it's not because they do not complain that everything is fine. Violations of the rights of minorities is something that can be seen in the day to day life of the minority in question, not by asking them what they think!


> We do have a lot of problems in Morocco which need
> to be tackled by real democrats and not by those
> who try to escape by creating artificial ones.


There are no real democrats in the USA, let alone in Morocco!


> Algerian generals who did confiscated the power in
> Algeria are damm wrong in interferring in moroccan
> internal affairs. They better respect the will of
> the algerian people.

I don't see what Algeria has to do here. I also noticed that wherever the question of Western Sahara is raised, Algeria is used as an argument to shield the real colonial intentions of the "kingdom". Western Sahara is a country pending its independance, period!



> Without respect


Same here!

SPARKS WROTE.

> "This is not an organization talking here, just a
> Moroccan National, like everybody else in the
> streets of Morocco, sharing OUR beliefs and
> concern about the future of this country in the
> hands of thieves, Mafia gangs and impreialists and
> hand-kissing assholes"


It is not by insulting that you are going to solve problems.
You needs to show us, where are the lies about the Sahara.
It seems that you are naive when you said that there is no involvement of Algeria in this conflict. Or it is another lie.
On one side they are talking about the "Grand maghreb" on the other side they are funding the Polisario to create a Puppet state.


Sparks wrote:
>
> "The Jews don't complain because nobody could complain. And it's
> not because they do not complain that everything
> is fine. Violations of the rights of minorities is
> something that can be seen in the day to day life
> of the minority in question, not by asking them
> what they think!"


Talk to jews who are not living anymore in Morocco.
You won´t hear any complain about the palace.
And if you are telling that Jews don´t complain,then I have the impression you are living in another planet.



>
> There are no real democrats in the USA, let alone
> in Morocco!

We do have moroccans national working hard at their level.
Morocco of 1912, is not morocco of 1956 and Morocco of 2005 is getting better even with Mafia etc....Very slow but there are changes.
Believe it or not it is true.


The arab world needs real democratic reforms and real unity and not the creation of new puppet state. In Europe borders are on their way to desappear while you are sitting in front of your computer repeating an old song of the seventies.
History is strong and is changing things very fast, one should keep paste with the realities.

@ Sparks
What are you talking about man? Are you a Berber an Amazigh? You may not even be an Arab!! remember that most of the southern of 'the maghrib Berber' is inhabited by black Africans, brought in by the Arabs as slaves, no need to mention that the people of the maghrib Berber are "Berbers, Arabs and black Africans" the PolisAlgerio leader, sorry Algeria is the leader of the PolisAlgerio. 'Abdelaziz ...' only working for his monthly wage. What would he do if he was in Morocco? there are no jobs there! i doubt he's an Arab, he's more sudani looking than an Arab; if you get for example his photograph and take it to Sudan and ask that you're looking for this man, you will be surprised to find lots of people who would tell you that he's living in that house or in that street, you may even find more than a few people who would tell you that's me in that photograph, where did you get my photograph from? be careful you might even get into trouble with somebody in Sudan he will think you stool his photograph!
Arab traitors and black African traitors, you are occupying my beloved Berber land, my ancestors land, over 11000 years of peace and harmony, we're the ancient race in the planet, until you came in a camel and started infecting my land. Go back to where you came from i don't want you in there; go and help your brothers and sisters in Palestine. At least go and join PolisAlgerio they are making lots of money, easy money, just sit and wait for it to come from abroad. What do you know about history man, i can trace my history and my ancestors for more than 11000 years back and are all in North Africa; from Egypt to Morocco and from Morocco to Mauritania and Mali. Can you trace your history and your ancestors? Yes you can, they are all in Arabia and Palestine or in Africa go and be with them your grand dad is looking for you!
Talking this way would cost you your life in Kabylie; Algeria, they don't like Arabs if you are aware of that. Algerian people don't like PolisAlgerio, i have more Algerian friends than Moroccan, one of them is setting beside me right now, he is an ex-soldier served many years in tindouf and he had told me many many things about tindouf, they will be mentioned in time. He hates his government and 'abdel aziz bo taklika'.

Ottoman empire divided our big Maghrib Berber, we the other brother and sisters in the west which is Morocco now couldn't free our brothers and sisters because of Portuguese and Spanish assaults on us, then we had to create our state and defend what's left of our big Maghrib Berber land from Oujda to Timbuktu ...
Regards.
The native North African.