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spring2009
this logic consider men as animal with no brain , why i have to cover up , sufficate my hair wear uncomfortable clothes for the men sake , isn t it more logical that men control himself , behave in a civil manner , and learn that in a society ther are laws to protect every individual , why make the women responsible for this
some people here may say : well thats allah orders , idid read the st quran so many times, the hijab is not a pillar of islam , and the hijab subject is interpreted in so many ways , some explain al hijab as curtain et doesn t mean mummifying the woman in a long cloth from head to toe
If God wanted to force women to wear the hijab he would have created them bald so they would have no choice but to wear the veil as protection from the sun. God created women with beautiful hair that grows longer and faster than men's so they could use it as seduction tool to find a futur husband, a soolmate.Quote
spring2009
religion should not be reduced to a dress code !
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amzigh01
Third,you blame the hair falling because of hijab. I am not a doctor but I can assure you that the hair did not fall because of the hijab
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amzigh01
Hi spring2009!
I understand yur frustration and anger directed at Hijab and its interpretation in Islam. I have also read the various comments that people have put forward, for and against the hijab.
First, I would like reasonably to answer your anger directed towards the hijab. The religious teacher is accountable to Allah if he does not convey to his students the respected aspects of religion. You are right, there is nowhere in the Quran where it mentions the hijab but thre is the Sunna. Our prophet (SAW) did tell us that a woman should only live the face and the palms uncovered. Again it is not what the Quran says but it is part of the Tarbia Islamiah.
Second,your father,as a man who loves you and cares for you, must have felt very proud that you finally have come to respect Allah, your religion and his obedience. One day you will have your own children and feel what your father and mother felt. He was proud of you because he loves you.
Third,you blame the hair falling because of hijab. I am not a doctor but I can assure you that the hair did not fall because of the hijab. It is an imbalance of the body. I am a man, I do not wear hijab and my hair has been falling since I left Morocco and that is 43 years ago. Can you imagine how much of it is left? I asked the doctors when I was young and his answer was that if he knew, he would have become a millionaire. He never mentioned the hijab.
Finally, I am a man and was young once, but I always thought that the women who wore hijab looked more attractive and there is a certain noor on their faces that only Allah can give them that noor. As a man I was too shy and I looked at this women as a future partner in Islam and not as a sexual object. Because I always thought that woman one day will give me good children to continue with my beautiful religion. As for this horney business, it is only natural that man feels like that, if he sick and he keeps looking at the back of a cow, he will get like you say, ho....!
Take care young lady. May Allah give you heart to love your religion and sorround yourself with the right people! Ameen
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NY, scientifically speaking, if you wear hijab 24/7 since you're a teen, you will end up a bald woman by the the age of 40, End of story.Quote
NYorkaise
I wear hijab and proud of my religion which is Islam. I put my hijab few months ago and nobody obliged me to do it even my husband because when we got married I was not wearing it.
I'm not an ugly lady neither I have a bad hair HamedouAllah, I have evtg and I'm thanking Allah SWT for giving me many things in life.
each time I read about people who are against hijab and I see the same response which hijab is a culture thing and not an obligation.
well, maybe I'm from old school and hijab is my right outfit,uh my God! losing hair of hijab since when? it means Allah SWT didn't make a good calcul about it and he need us to be bold ca ce qu'on appelle du n'importe quoi
ps: Spring2009, how come you live in Islamic country and you think like that?
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spring2009
good for you if you are proud of your hijab thats something you choose to thats your opinion and you are entitled to it , as you noticed i have the opposite opinion , i don t beleive in hijab
most women don t have the luxury like in your case to choose because they come from a poor family or a male dominated culture , if the woman says no or even dared to express her opinion she knows in advance the consequences
majority of women are forced to wear hijab :
- because their brother or father has forced them to do so
- because it s a way to get a husband thats a fashion recently in morocco , a woman is judged by her outfit and dress code not by her intelligence , education , or contribution to society as a good citizen which is a bizarre way to judge caracters and what destroy the credibility of this practice is that a lot of mohajjabates now in morocco are prostitues hiding under a scarf , students at the universities with hijabs snogging everywhere so hijab is not a sign of integrity or values or self respect
i would like to comment on your last sentence which i found strange , judgemental and lacks tolerence
how you live in an islamic country and you think this way?the only answer which comes to my mind is
every human being is entitled to express his or her opinion , what do you expect ? do you think should i be executed because the way i am thinking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!do you think because i don t think hijab is a pilar of islam i need to be deported and stripped of my nationality thats just sums it all up
if you live in N.york thats a multi cultural town which means tolerance and accepting others
debatting in a civil manner
you could wear your hijab and be proud of it good for you and carry on in wearing it if it makes you feel good i encourage you to do things you choose to with your free will , personnally i feel it s a symbol of slavery , men dictatorship, and it is a pure myth and invention by some sexually furstrated so called religious people who hardly could spell their names and spend their times thinking what women should wear
hijab is not a proof that the person has good values
the beard is not a proof that the person is a good person
those are just appearances
religion is a very private thing between the person and his creature i hope one day people understand this and stop using the fashion shows as a termometer to measure peoples faiths
this is a question to n yorkaise , if you don t mind it will be nice to enrish the debate if you share with us , why you love your hijab? how do you cope in a hot day with long clothes and a scarf covering the hair?doesn t it make your hair flat untidy sweaty and uncomfortable ?
i presume you cover your ears as well don you feel like it is an obstraction ?
the proper hijab for some is covering up the whole face and wear gloves , socks ? don t you feel sometimes that you just want to sit in a restaurant like any other human being and eat with no restrictions or clothes over the mouth , the nose and ears ?
share your love to hijab with us that will be great
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NYorkaise
how come I could go out with no hijab and I knew in Surat Noor
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chelhman
Hi again NYorkaise, thank you the for copy/paste, but you've given us nothing, just the usual multiple interpretations, which leaves us with the only fact at hand : there is absolutely nothing that mentions specifically the word "hijab" in the Quran.
Covering oneself is the first sign of civilization, it's not specific to islam, it's just common modesty as you would have in any society regardless of the creed.
The Quran is the best wisdom of its time, it can not be taken literally, otherwise we would be whipping women in public for the slighest error in judgment, I would simply refer you to surat Noor you just mentioned.
Anyway, this is an endless debate between those who use their brain and take the scriptures with a grain of salt and those who prefer the comfort of not thinking and follow them like a manual.
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chelhman
Hi again NYorkaise, thank you the for copy/paste, but you've given us nothing, just the usual multiple interpretations, which leaves us with the only fact at hand : there is absolutely nothing that mentions specifically the word "hijab" in the Quran.
Covering oneself is the first sign of civilization, it's not specific to islam, it's just common modesty as you would have in any society regardless of the creed.
The Quran is the best wisdom of its time, it can not be taken literally, otherwise we would be whipping women in public for the slighest error in judgment, I would simply refer you to surat Noor you just mentioned.
Anyway, this is an endless debate between those who use their brain and take the scriptures with a grain of salt and those who prefer the comfort of not thinking and follow them like a manual.
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chelhman
Hi again NYorkaise, thank you the for copy/paste, but you've given us nothing, just the usual multiple interpretations, which leaves us with the only fact at hand : there is absolutely nothing that mentions specifically the word "hijab" in the Quran.
Covering oneself is the first sign of civilization, it's not specific to islam, it's just common modesty as you would have in any society regardless of the creed.
The Quran is the best wisdom of its time, it can not be taken literally, otherwise we would be whipping women in public for the slighest error in judgment, I would simply refer you to surat Noor you just mentioned.
Anyway, this is an endless debate between those who use their brain and take the scriptures with a grain of salt and those who prefer the comfort of not thinking and follow them like a manual.
mr chelhman , i have just read our sister Nyorkaise her comment about: frapper la femme par son marishe is all for it , no problem for her get a good beating in the name of religion
what i am trying to say , no point to explain to people who benn brainwashed by a strong bleach , CELITE BANG
first of all ,I've never participated in that topic then it's my turn to treat you of a big liar if you think I'm brainwashed then you are ignorant about the Islam.Quote
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chelhman
Hi again NYorkaise, thank you the for copy/paste, but you've given us nothing, just the usual multiple interpretations, which leaves us with the only fact at hand : there is absolutely nothing that mentions specifically the word "hijab" in the Quran.
Covering oneself is the first sign of civilization, it's not specific to islam, it's just common modesty as you would have in any society regardless of the creed.
The Quran is the best wisdom of its time, it can not be taken literally, otherwise we would be whipping women in public for the slighest error in judgment, I would simply refer you to surat Noor you just mentioned.
Anyway, this is an endless debate between those who use their brain and take the scriptures with a grain of salt and those who prefer the comfort of not thinking and follow them like a manual.
mr chelhman , i have just read our sister Nyorkaise her comment about: frapper la femme par son marishe is all for it , no problem for her get a good beating in the name of religion
what i am trying to say , no point to explain to people who benn brainwashed by a strong bleach , CELITE BANG
Dieu a pris bcp de temps pour creer tes cheveux alors que toi tu veux cacher ces cheveux car un homme, ton mari ou ton pere voulait que ca soit comme ca.Quote
NYorkaise
I don't know why you MEN(I don't generalize) you don't want to accept us Women to cover herself? why? because she 's hard to reach you guys , you need us to be the way you want her, tall, skiny, overweight, you are the ones who try to control the woman not Islam, you judge her more i her apparence than who she is this is why Islam is defending her , it's giving her that hijab because when you hire her for a job you look her skills, her papers not her boobs or her shape when she walks in your office
It's Islam who give the privilge to the woman, it didn't put her picture in the bottle of wine or matches to be sold in the street, Islam didn't put the woman a merchandise.
Anyway! learn more about Islam before you judge anyone!
oui, hamedouAllah, c'est pour cette raison que je dois couvrir mes cheveux pourque ca soit un mystere pour vos genres de tjs deviner comment ils sontQuote
FreeThinkerDieu a pris bcp de temps pour creer tes cheveux alors que toi tu veux cacher ces cheveux car un homme, ton mari ou ton pere voulait que ca soit comme ca.Quote
NYorkaise
I don't know why you MEN(I don't generalize) you don't want to accept us Women to cover herself? why? because she 's hard to reach you guys , you need us to be the way you want her, tall, skiny, overweight, you are the ones who try to control the woman not Islam, you judge her more i her apparence than who she is this is why Islam is defending her , it's giving her that hijab because when you hire her for a job you look her skills, her papers not her boobs or her shape when she walks in your office
It's Islam who give the privilge to the woman, it didn't put her picture in the bottle of wine or matches to be sold in the street, Islam didn't put the woman a merchandise.
Anyway! learn more about Islam before you judge anyone!
ca sert a quoi creer des cheveux juste pour etre caches et couverts?
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spring2009
wear hijab so as not to seduce men!
i think if this is the main reason behind the myth of hijab , it s only fair to say that men too need to wear some sort of hijab , a scottish long skirt a long pakistani shirts and an indian turban
this way seduction between men and women won t exist thats justice why picking on women in everything
thanks everyone for your opinions
peace to all